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Re: [Scheme-reports] Reformulated numeric-tower ballot
Peter Bex scripsit:
> Just declaring a grab-bag of libraries as "standardized" isn't going
> to work, especially considering the current tendency is towards
> marginalizing many Scheme implementations by doing things like
> declaring Unicode and the full numeric tower as mandatory.
If you're thinking about Chicken, then it's important to realize that
the default mode does not have to be the standard-compliant mode.
Until recently, Chibi's default was R5RS+ rather than R7RS-small;
Racket's default is #lang racket, which doesn't comply with any specific
Scheme standard; Gambit doesn't support R5RS macros unless you load the
syntax-rules library; and so on.
Here's the current list of Schemes that support the full numeric and
character towers: Racket, Gauche, MIT, Gambit, Chicken (with eggs),
Scheme48/scsh, Kawa, Chibi, Guile, Chez, Vicare, Larceny, Ypsilon, Mosh,
IronScheme, STklos, KSi. In addition, the Java/CLR based Schemes (other
than Kawa) almost do: they support characters up to U+FFFF.
> I also agree with Wingo's remarks: this standard is just a bunch of
> folks who like to quibble about language esoterics,
This judgement is grossly premature to say the least.
> instead of implementors who know their stuff, and have a feeling
> for the way standards can help or hinder implementation and
Standards are not the place for experimentation, I agree.
> The scope is also way too large, which means people like me won't
> have the energy to keep up with all proposals; by the end, the only
> people left will be those with nothing better to do than argue about
Hence the "drop in, drop out" policy. People can join whenever they get
interested, and stop voting (since abstentions do not count either for
or against a proposal).
> This is turning out to be truly "design by committee". I'm also going
> to stop participating in this standardization effort.
Well, that's a pity. We could certainly use your input.
John Cowan http://www.ccil.org/~cowan cowan@x
Original line from The Warrior's Apprentice by Lois McMaster Bujold:
"Only on Barrayar would pulling a loaded needler start a stampede toward one."
English-to-Russian-to-English mangling thereof: "Only on Barrayar you risk to
lose support instead of finding it when you threat with the charged weapon."
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